Chronologically?! Mmmm. Well, the first thing I remember was my father dragging me down the Boer War celebrations when I was about 5 or 6. He said he'd had some uncles in it, but I don't remember being very interested...

Flo Smith - Now and Then

By Christopher Saul

A One Woman show

"Feisty, funny and frank. A working class London girl who has endured poverty, injustice, a troubled upbringing, love and loss, her reminisces intermingle with world events... it is this intimate biographical detail framed against the background politics that give her gossipy ramblings a historical importance and unique insightfulness." Gill Sutherland, Stratford Herald 1.03.18
1971 - Nanny Smith outside Richie House with author and his son.

It was 1969. I was a drama student in my final year, casting around for a subject for my dissertation. I hit on the idea of interviewing and recording the reminiscences of Florence Smith, my paternal grandmother. "Nanny" Smith was happy to oblige and so, for several days in The Spring of 1969, I sat in her cosy living room at number 36 Richie House, Hazelville Road, North London, drinking copious amounts of tea and listening avidly while Nanny Smith filled spool after spool of my tape recorder with her recollections. Florence told me of her Victorian childhood, her marriage to a young man who was later seriously wounded in the First World War (my grandfather), her struggle to put food on the table for her hungry children in the 1930s, and her harrowing experiences of the London Blitz. For the times, it was a common enough story and yet, for all that, a unique one too, as unique as any human being's life.

I transcribed Florence’s account, edited it and submitted it as my long overdue third year thesis. I gave it the title, Flo Smith - Now and Then. Three months later, I graduated from the Rose Bruford College of Speech and Drama and within weeks had obtained my first acting job at The Oxford Playhouse.

Flo Smith
1918 - Florence Smith wth her first born, Bill.

Years passed. I established myself as an actor, married, had children, got divorced, married again and had more children. When I last counted, we had ten grandchildren. The hustle and bustle of everyday existence and the demands of surviving in a challenging profession inevitably forced Flo Smith’s story to the extremities of my consciousness. Eventually, I forgot all about it. Then, "Nanny" died. It was 1989 and she was 96.

More years passed. In the course of moving house, Flo Smith - Now and Then came to light again. I re-read it, more from curiosity than anything else. The years that my Grandmother had described for me so long ago had themselves receded further into the irretrievable past. The dissertation itself had passed into history and had become a piece of memorabilia, an historical fragment validating my own existence. I read it again and again over the following weeks, months, years and vowed to somehow salvage Flo Smith - Now and Then from the flux of time. I developed a growing conviction that Flo’s story deserved to reach a wider audience. But how? As a radio programme perhaps? As a piece of reminiscence theatre? As a one woman show.

1st Reading
Ursula Mohan performs at the first public reading 30th April, 2017.

With this in mind, I searched for the original tape recordings Flo had made for me in 1969. Disaster! All of the recordings had been completely lost! I was in despair. Yet I still had the written testimony of my Grandmother’s life, in which Florence’s unique and distinctive voice had been captured.

Using the original transcripts, and working closely with Ursula Mohan, a first draft was formed. This was read for an invited audience of family and friends at Flo's daughter, Dorothy's, church - the Union Church, Crouch End, London, on the bank holiday weekend of April 30th, 2017.

The script has continued to be worked on throughout summer 2017 and performances and venues are planned for 2018-19.

Ursula Mohan performs 'Flo Smith - Now and Then'

"Ursula Mohan, a well-known actress who has played everything from a female Lear to a 'hottie' in 'On the Buses' is at ease as Flo... entirely convincing... a spunky old dear who has seen it all, a performance definitely more than the sum of its parts." Gill Sutherland, Stratford Herald 1.03.18
Ursula Mohan

Ursula began her career aged 15 at Wimbledon Theatre before winning a scholarship to train at Webber Douglas and has been a working actress ever since. Recently she played Lear as a Queen in the critically acclaimed production of King Lear (Tristan Bates & Union Theatre.) Other recent work includes Hecuba (Scoop) and Sarah in Horniman's Choice (Finborough).

Past theatre credits include: Ala in Tango directed by Trevor Nunn and Peter Brook's US (RSC), Sandy in Making Tracks directed by Alan Ayckbourn (Greenwich), title role in The Good Woman of Setzuan (Hampstead), Mitzi in A Murder is Announced (Vaudeville), Liz in Revenge (Royal Court), Emilia in Othello and Rosalind in Love's Labours Lost (Regent's Park), Lucretia The Cenci (Almeida), Dolores in Bloody Mary (Stratford East,) Zerbinetta Scapino (Young Vic) and leading roles with many regional theatres.

Most recent film and TV work includes The Bank Job and Doctors and in the past she was Joyce, a clippie in many episodes of On the Buses.

Interview with Ursula Mohan for Love Camden.

Christopher Saul

Christopher Saul trained at The Rose Bruford College. Theatre productions include over 20 productions with The Royal Shakespeare Company. Parts have ranged from Ebenezer Scrooge to King Lear. TV includes Emmerdale, Doctors, Dr Who, The Professionals, One Foot in the Grave and in 2 series of the BBC soap, Triangle. Films include Wilt and Sahara. Christopher is a Helen Hayes Award winner 2013 for his roles in The Shakespeare Globe's touring production of Hamlet.

'Florence 'Flo' Smith - Now and Then', the original transcript on which this show is based, is available as an ebook at Amazon.


"Incredibly vivid, and transports the audience magically back to those moments in time. Human and relatable." Gill Sutherland, Stratford Herald 1.03.18